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Iseik
20-01-2009, 01:56 PM
hey guys, with the new president of the
US starting from today i was wondering what everyone thinks of him? will he be better than Bush? what does everyone think??

Nirvlime
20-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Well, right now he has the hearts of a lot of us americans. Not only is he 'intelligent' but he's also 'cool'. It's quite appealing. Right now, it's hard to say if he'll do better than Bush or not - but I'd hope so! His whole campaign has preached 'change' so I'm excited to see it.

Laika
20-01-2009, 04:33 PM
He's a good politician, very good. But in his inauguration speech, still ongoing as of now, he didn't actually SAY anything, it was just brilliant, brilliant rhetoric.

Star_Waters
20-01-2009, 06:40 PM
hey guys, with the new president of the
US starting from today i was wondering what everyone thinks of him? will he be better than Bush? what does everyone think??

anyones better than bush lol

but depeneds on how you define "better" comedic value prolly not, but politically yes

Freddy
20-01-2009, 07:14 PM
I can't see any bad things in Obama. He's a super star, if you ask me :crown:

- He's a very good politician. ;)
(Love him! :D)

Nagisa24
20-01-2009, 07:21 PM
at the moment he's all talk just like sarkozy from france. hopefully this'll change though and he'll actually do something good. at least its a step forward for america in terms of him being black-ish here in england we'll claerly never have a black prime minister because everyone is too racist.

JohnnyV
20-01-2009, 07:53 PM
As of now I'm completely neutral towards Obama. Just like I am with any politician who seizes power. My trust is his to earn, and keep. I think his personality is what the US needs though, even if I don't agree with him politically. Atleast there's some integrity back in the White House, and not a 24/7 joke.

Tykain
20-01-2009, 08:03 PM
Obama is intelligent and a very good politician, quite the opposite of Bush.
It's definitely better than having Bush as the US president, but he wont bring half as many changes as people are expecting.
People are expecting way too much from him...He is just a politician, he doesn't do miracles. Some things will get better, but not much will change overall.

RD
20-01-2009, 08:26 PM
He preaches changes but never promised changes. I think things will get worse.

Nagisa24
20-01-2009, 09:22 PM
to be fair to bush i wouldnt call him stupid. he was president for 2 terms and thats no mean feat. he just occasionally would become a bit retarded in interviews. maybe he's just like david brent from the office and was trying too hard to be cool.

Lorcan!
20-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Well, he's being hailed as the second coming by most people in the world and while I can see that what he's doing is Historic and I know what this means for most people, I think that a lot of people will be disapointed by him.
Not because he'll be a bad politician! He's the worlds best talker! And I'm sure he'll do great things!
But with the amount that everyone is placing on his shoulders, there's no way he can live up to it. Nobody could. Look at GTA IV.
It's an amazing game. But people don't like it. Not because it's bad, but because it was so overhyped that we were all disappointed by it.

Nirvlime
20-01-2009, 11:28 PM
He's a good politician, very good. But in his inauguration speech, still ongoing as of now, he didn't actually SAY anything, it was just brilliant, brilliant rhetoric.

I felt like he said a lot. Quite inclusive. He didn't get up and talk about all the things he was gonna do like most presidents. He got up there and said we as a whole have to do it together.


He preaches changes but never promised changes. I think things will get worse.

He hasn't even been president for a full day yet man. Be a little bit more optimistic, lol.

Oyarsa
21-01-2009, 04:34 AM
It's the President. The most blown-up political role serving as nothing but a marketing spokesman for those we will never know about.

The democratic White House, together with the concept of having an elected President, just make things look better on paper.

monks199
21-01-2009, 05:19 AM
at the moment he's all talk just like sarkozy from france. hopefully this'll change though and he'll actually do something good. at least its a step forward for america in terms of him being black-ish here in england we'll claerly never have a black prime minister because everyone is too racist.

first i have to comment to this sorry i normally let this stuff pass but come on i am english and proud of it please dont say stuff like that just because we have not had a black man or woman as prime minster does not make us racist

i agree it would be a maybe a good move for the uk like it has been shown in the usa but you are compairing 2 very diffrent political systems

the uk had one of the first every woman in power not the first but one of :-) we have more culture in the uk than most contrys in the world if we was so racist why do so many people want to live there from all over the world

i cant say to much as i have recently moved to cyprus but that was a personal choice for a better life and weather lol

but i do think one day it will happen no idea when i am not saying there are not issues in uk but compaired to some places in the world we are very understand of other culture

now obama this subject at hand i think it will be unfair to comment on him yet great image for usa i really hope he does a good job

Nagisa24
21-01-2009, 01:06 PM
i didnt mean everyone was racist its just theres a lot of ignorant people in britain, probably this time in america there was like 1 racist for every 5 normal people, i bet in england though theres like 1 in every 3 or so. look at the bnp theyre horrendous human beings but still get a lot of votes. the mistake now for the world is for a black person to assume that they could easily become leader of their country just because obama did. but if the right man or woman came along i would hope that the british people would do the right thing.

Laika
21-01-2009, 03:46 PM
He preaches changes but never promised changes. I think things will get worse.

Seriously? And of course he hasn't promised changes, any politician in their right mind promises anything, unforseen circumstances and whatnot. Already, in his first day, he ordered suspension of the very dubious Guantanamo Bay tribunals, surely this is a forward step in the direction of liberty and true freedom?

And the BNP are HARDLY a majority, it's something like 5%, at the very most. Admittedly, a family member of mine is a member, quite ashamedly so. And racism isn't really a factor in people coming to live in the UK, especially when isolated communities come into play. It's more to do with economic prospects than anything. We have had a female Prime Minister, also, remember MAGGIE THATCHER? THE IRON WOMAN?

Besides, even though the political structure is different and TECHNICALLY, in the UK, you vote for the party, not for the person, it's still the same end result. Obama didn't get in because he was black, he got in because he is a charismatic and forward-thinking individual, and the sad truth is we don't seem to have very many of those in the British political system, Brown has all the flare and charisma of the gum you'd find on the underside of school desks, Cameron reminds me of a more lecherous Pierce Brosnan, as well as the whole 'Tory Toff' vibe he has going. Nick Clegg, well, I don't know much about him really, not many people really do. It's not like many there have been many black MPs in the first place, and I don't think it's fair to say they wouldn't get elected due to skin colour, especially if they have something worthwhile to say.

Haza103
21-01-2009, 04:38 PM
Well, if he's got this amount of support from people all around the world at the moment, he definately has the potential to deliver.

Oyarsa
22-01-2009, 12:09 AM
Just look at it this way; a very easy to understand and frighteningly accurate statement.

If there was a ladder of power in the United States, then the President will most likely be on one of the lower steps, and mankind does not possess eyesight powerful enough to even be able to see halfway to the top.

Politics and governments are like the ocean. You can stare at the surface all day, but the only things you'll be able to conclude are that it's blue, and wet. If you want to know what goes on below the surface, you need a lot of friends and equipment to help you down, until you reach the point where everything is so black you can't even see anymore.

No pun intended.

Nagisa24
22-01-2009, 12:14 AM
did u learn all this from metal gear solid. especially mgs2. lol.

Oyarsa
22-01-2009, 12:23 AM
No.. I learned it by living on earth for quite some time now. :X

Tykain
22-01-2009, 01:20 AM
I agree with Oyarsa on some points.
it's not a man nor even a group of political people running the US (Or any other capitalist nation) anyways, it's money that does.
I never see any significant change whenever a new president is elected, be it in the US or other countries.
The president will take some decisions that some people will like and others wont, but nothing that will have a real impact on some major issues like the economic crisis the US is going through.

blake_
23-01-2009, 05:50 PM
nobody can be worse than bush and he should be good.

Oyarsa
24-01-2009, 03:24 PM
nobody can be worse than bush and he should be good.
Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter often are rated a lot lower. Bush wasn't the worst - it just became fashionable to hate him. More like a scape-goat at some point that a lot of Americans would turn to to make themselves look more innocent.

Bush was, also, nothing but a marketing spokesman to relay the choices made behind the scenes. We truly can't blame the man himself personally for simply doing his job.

Yes, he was an idiot, and appeared rather uneducated at times. However, in the same breath, you can conclude that he was therefore far too stupid to come up with the bad moves the US has made, all by himself. The dumbest people are often the most innocent ones. Intelligent intellectuals plot and scheme.

Vapor17
24-01-2009, 03:39 PM
I've only seen a little bit of his campain and he seems good, Bush seemd also good until he became president.

Laika
24-01-2009, 04:34 PM
I've only seen a little bit of his campain and he seems good, Bush seemd also good until he became president.

Bush didn't ban torture and sign off for the closure of Guantanamo boy within his first 24 hours in office, did he? :P

blake_
24-01-2009, 04:39 PM
Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter often are rated a lot lower. Bush wasn't the worst - it just became fashionable to hate him. More like a scape-goat at some point that a lot of Americans would turn to to make themselves look more innocent.

Bush was, also, nothing but a marketing spokesman to relay the choices made behind the scenes. We truly can't blame the man himself personally for simply doing his job.

Yes, he was an idiot, and appeared rather uneducated at times. However, in the same breath, you can conclude that he was therefore far too stupid to come up with the bad moves the US has made, all by himself. The dumbest people are often the most innocent ones. Intelligent intellectuals plot and scheme.

I know i was just going with the genral artical in the uk, i would say from what i'v seen bush was always a good larf in the press room.

aztec_god
24-01-2009, 05:01 PM
I think he will do good. His speeches are good the vice president he choose was good. But he is not doing so good protecting himself i think he has to do a little better with security.

Nagisa24
24-01-2009, 05:36 PM
he wants to be shot i think so people can turn him into the new jfk. the sooner the better i bet he thinks so people dont realise he's all hot air.

Oyarsa
24-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Being shot is the greatest glorification a president can have. Views and morals that you try to spread will be quadrupled in importance after a successful assassination.

Lincoln and JFK wouldn't be talked about today had it not been for their successful assassinations. Either way, security or not, if someone wants you dead it will happen. No amount of security can prevent that in today's world of technology. It never hurts to lower the odds, though.

Becoming the president of the US is an expensive synonym for putting yourself and your loved ones in immediate danger, which is why, to me, it's one of the least favorable titles obtained in the nation.

Haza103
24-01-2009, 06:47 PM
I've heard quite a few times that Obama's half JFK and half Martin Luther King. Not only because they both got shot, but they were both powerful speakers. Makes sence, but there's already been at least one group arrested for planning to assassinate him.

Laika
24-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Being shot is the greatest glorification a president can have. Views and morals that you try to spread will be quadrupled in importance after a successful assassination.

Lincoln and JFK wouldn't be talked about today had it not been for their successful assassinations. Either way, security or not, if someone wants you dead it will happen. No amount of security can prevent that in today's world of technology. It never hurts to lower the odds, though.



Unless you're Fidel Castro.

liambonner
24-01-2009, 11:25 PM
He just seems like a born leader to me. Shame we have a pressident that is to busy trying to figer out how to subscibe to weight watchers:bigcry:

Laika
25-01-2009, 10:38 AM
He just seems like a born leader to me. Shame we have a pressident that is to busy trying to figer out how to subscibe to weight watchers:bigcry:

It wouldn't be so bad if he was at least a charismatic oaf, or someone with hilarious redeeming qualities, like Boris Johnson, or at least jolly and doesn't insist on doing that weird tongue-gum thing, like he's doing a Primary School impression of someone with disabilities.

I say we vote for Santa, he might be fictional, but that's better than a oversized floor mop.

blake_
30-01-2009, 07:07 AM
He just seems like a born leader to me. Shame we have a pressident that is to busy trying to figer out how to subscibe to weight watchers:bigcry:

prime minister :P

PandaPanic!
30-01-2009, 11:49 AM
He seems like a good guy and seems moral and i think he will do a great job actually making America a better place for everyone to live in, As for getting Assassinated i very much don't think it will happen as i would of thought he would of been killed already.

Laika
30-01-2009, 04:56 PM
See: JFK