Capital Punishment- right or wrong?

[Haza103]

Capital Punishment is now illegal in most countries. But is it right or wrong?

I personally think it is right, as long as it is justified with the correct evidence. This would stop cases such as derek bentley happening again.

As to why i think it's right, society has become to easy on murderers and such. They could even be let out of prison on "good behaviour", despite the suffering they have caused to the family.

However, if the family of the victim does not wish the opressor to be killed, then things may have to be thought through. The main reason i think it should be brought back is to aid the pain felt by the families.

[Laika]

Wrong. Not on moral basis, but on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... this isn't the Old Testament anymore.

[Haza103]

Wrong. Not on moral basis, but on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... this isn't the Old Testament anymore.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

[Wilebore]

i believe that only cold mass murderers should be hung. of course the death penalty is still around in america. But back to the above only cold mofos who confess or found guilty undoubtably and sentenced to life without parole are to be killed. thats my opinion.

[Laika]

Where do you draw the line? How many people being killed warrants another murder? Isn't life without parole bad enough?

[Wilebore]

that sir is a good question. Maybe the prisoner should have a choice between death and a life sentence. before you say! i know that sounds stupid but you just dont know, i mean consider how many people are found hanging in their cells each year. if you dont know, its a fairly big number.

just to be clear i am not trying to argue here, discussing.

[Laika]

A choice would be interesting, but some would argue (not myself) that by taking away life, they've taken away their own right to choose. What're the figures like for prison suicides? I'm not particularly familiar, and wasn't under the impression it was particularly high.

[Wilebore]

i dont know the exact figure but i know many many many prison guards and up here it is at least 20% or something but if anyone does know a better figure or decides im completely wrong please let me know. and yes a choice would be.

[Haza103]

What're the figures like for prison suicides? I'm not particularly familiar, and wasn't under the impression it was particularly high.

Well it's mainly famous people you hear about in the news, i know Ian Huntly who murdered Holly Wells and Jessica chapman tries to commit suicide twice at least. Other people are given hell in prison for what they've done, i heard today that the guy who murdered Rhys jones was taken into hospital as he got the shit kicked out of him. and he's only been in there for a few days.

[Laika]

And Harold Shipman.

Shitkicking is different, mind. It's primitive animal justice and I guess, part of the punishment for going to prison.

[Wilebore]

its pretty brutal. but you can see where im coming from.

[ardjoe]

I think if there is enough, super strong evidence, those convited for life sentences for crimes like terrorism, mass murder, arms dealers, should be killed.

[Nagisa24]

if people got actual life then it'd be fine but they never do. life is always like 15 years. our prison system doesnt work. if capital punishment was brought back at least it would be more of a deterrent.

[steedster]

Capital punishment is all right if the convicted person is a real disgusting person. Like someone who rapes and murders young girls, or for mass murderers who have no motive. People like that need to know whats coming to them, and IMO they don't deserve to live.

As for people getting beaten up in prison, that's the way it goes and is all part of your sentence.

[Wilebore]

thats what one of my posts was saying yeah and i agree wit Nagisa 2.

[Nirvlime]

Anyone ever thought about how much money is invested in the prisoners who are there for life? I don't know any numbers or anything...but I just got to thinking - all those people who are there for life. How is that paid for? Economically, would it be better to just kill'em off? I mean - they aren't contributing to society anyways.

When I was younger I was completely against capital punishment - I thought it was the worst thing - but as I've gotten older I am now completely for it within certain circumstances.

[ugabugaz]

Prisoners should be used as a free labor force....See that way everything would be cheaper and not made in china. Now I'm talking about seriously evil people, not someone who lets say just stole a small piece of merchandise. But then again that would be considered "morally wrong"

[liambonner]

If the criminal is a cereal killer, peodofile or has beat there children up then these are the crimes that deserve corpral punishment

[Laika]

I think if there is enough, super strong evidence, those convited for life sentences for crimes like terrorism, mass murder, arms dealers, should be killed.

Case study: Guantanamo bay.

Only problem with things like 'anti-terror' laws is that they mean people's human rights can be abused majorly on little to no substantial evidence.

Is 'evidence' a quantifiable thing? How does one determine when enough evidence warrants the death chair?

[liambonner]

Case study: Guantanamo bay.

Only problem with things like 'anti-terror' laws is that they mean people's human rights can be abused majorly on little to no substantial evidence.

Is 'evidence' a quantifiable thing? How does one determine when enough evidence warrants the death chair?

Yes you do have a point. Someone could murder in a sperm of the moment. But y should that person be put to death

[blake_]

if someone loses a life, then sobody needs to pay for that.

[Laika]

Pay with their own you mean? Even if it was accidental? Does this mean rapists should be raped, and paedophiles be molested? You know why I don't subscribe to this school of though?

Katie. Price. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2154056.ece)

[blake_]

Pay with their own you mean? Even if it was accidental? Does this mean rapists should be raped, and paedophiles be molested? You know why I don't subscribe to this school of though?

Katie. Price. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2154056.ece)

yes pay with their own life.
and no because the pedos and rapists will like it done to them they should just have their balls cut of then they cant do it again can they.

[CraigyBL2]

Hmm i'm not sure how far i would go about agreeing with capital punishment. Isnt it just a quick and easy way out for someone who should be made to suffer for what they have done ?

[RGL_UK]

Hmm i'm not sure how far i would go about agreeing with capital punishment. Isnt it just a quick and easy way out for someone who should be made to suffer for what they have done ?

Unless the way they are killed depends on the crime.
Rape - Their hands and eye's gourged out and their gentials cut off :).
Murder - Forced to play Haze till they cant take it anymore and die.
:vampire:

[CraigyBL2]

Murder - Forced to play Haze till they cant take it anymore and die.
:vampire:

There was me thinking this was the serious discussion thread, i believe the saying goes "if you dont have nothing to contribute, dont!".

[RGL_UK]

There was me thinking this was the serious discussion thread, i believe the saying goes "if you dont have nothing to contribute, dont!".

My opinion is a valid one.
I feel sorry for you if you do not have a sense of humor to understand a joke.

[Prospero]

LoL RGL_UK, that is cruel & unusual punishment.


"if you dont have nothing to contribute, dont!".

Maybe not what you intended, but a good point.
If they don't have anything positive to contribute to society, don't contribute.

I'm 100% for capital punishment, but not as punishment or vengeance.
An eye for an eye is not the answer.

I'm all for 2nd chances. There is no perfect legal system.
There could be a forced confession or a plea-bargain even though the defendant is innocent. The death may even have been accidental such as involuntary manslaughter but with misleading evidence making it look premeditated.

Regardless of the crime, there needs to be the freedom of choice and an option for rehabilitation.
Even with a prior conviction, it is possible they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and their history could cloud the jury's minds.

But the three strike rule for repeat offenders? Don't just throw the book at them. If they're still not keeping their nose clean, execute them. Not just for rapists and murderers either, all career criminals with repeat felonies.
They've had their chance, and know what's coming. No sitting on death row for years and wasting more of the tax payers money in the process either, do them in.

[Laika]

Guys, keep it civil :P Craigy has a perfectly formed sense of humour... and RGL is beautiful as he is. I wouldn't want to change a thing.

[Nirvlime]

I'm from Texas baby. I say roast'em all.

[telbee]

Im all for it!!! Big time! But obviously you would have to be proven 100% guilty. For me the death penalty should apply to murder not man slaughter and to rape

[iMatty-]

Where do you draw the line? How many people being killed warrants another murder? Isn't life without parole bad enough?

Life without parole, isn't as bad as it sounds. As they somehow end up back out of jail back on the streets. It shouldn't even be called a life sentence in my opinion.