View Full Version : is porn right or wrong?
impjim
04-01-2009, 06:25 PM
so is it right or wrong.
remember this is serious discusion
i think it is wrong because people are taking advantage of *mostly* young girls who need money which is wrong
davidtcawley
04-01-2009, 06:32 PM
poll doesn't make sense yes its right or yes its wrong?
anyways my answer is ... you're probably right, it's wrong.
but it feels so right.
PandaPanic!
04-01-2009, 06:32 PM
I don't think this is the right website to discuss these sort of issues i can see this going very off-topic and too many idiots saying rude things.
Freddy
04-01-2009, 06:33 PM
I think this Thread is going to be closed very soon. Remember, young people are visiting the site, and this is supposed to be a site about gaming and technology. O_o
Haza103
04-01-2009, 06:38 PM
Yea i agree with Freddy in a way, but cmon, kids know about it all anyway.
As for the anwser it seems very weird to talk about.
Laika
04-01-2009, 06:51 PM
Especially given I have no idea what I'm putting in the poll.
'Right or wrong' isn't a yes or no question...
'Is it right or wrong?'
'Yes.'
'What?!'
Personally I don't see prostitution as being 'wrong', however when crack cocaine is introduced, different story.
tricky92
04-01-2009, 07:03 PM
Gunna have to agree with Freddy a bit off topic, and sort out the poll lol
Laika
04-01-2009, 07:08 PM
Gunna have to agree with Freddy a bit off topic, and sort out the poll lol
Am I the only one who's noticed we're on the Off-topic forum? Not to piss on your campires or anything :vampire:
Tykain
04-01-2009, 07:55 PM
As long as it's legal porn (Everyone is consenting, no under aged girls, etc) then there is nothing wrong with it.
Wilebore
04-01-2009, 08:03 PM
its not even mostly young girls needing money, thats hookers.
lol andy did you just take the o off porno?
lol
steedster
04-01-2009, 08:05 PM
I'll be keeping my eye on this thread for any naughtiness;).
Wilebore
04-01-2009, 08:09 PM
steedster the wink face scared my slightly lmao
theColster123
04-01-2009, 08:09 PM
IMO Porn is wrong. Women should not be portrayed as sex objects. They are human beings. Not slave objects who are put on the earth just to entertain men.
Yamaharu243
04-01-2009, 08:11 PM
tbh i'd say its wrong, and i'am one of those apparently hormone driven 16 year olds that are meant to watch the crap :/
mainly due to the fact that some women volunteer for it, yet all of them are viewed as sex objects.
Laika
04-01-2009, 08:30 PM
IMO Porn is wrong. Women should not be portrayed as sex objects. They are human beings. Not slave objects who are put on the earth just to entertain men.
And men should? Men get the object treatment just as much as women do these days, and it irritates me when people band on about women in such a way and fail to see the objectification of men. Okay is porn is wrong due to people being portrayed as sexual objects, then please don't omit men.
Besides, I know a few girls who also watch porn, is it okay for the objects to entertain women and not men?
Personally I don't have a problem with it, just I really dislike fallacious arguments.
PandaPanic!
04-01-2009, 08:39 PM
And men should? Men get the object treatment just as much as women do these days, and it irritates me when people band on about women in such a way and fail to see the objectification of men. Okay is porn is wrong due to people being portrayed as sexual objects, then please don't omit men.
Besides, I know a few girls who also watch porn, is it okay for the objects to entertain women and not men?
Personally I don't have a problem with it, just I really dislike fallacious arguments.
I Agree with Laika but only because he is smart :)
Laika
04-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Kiss my ass, why don't you? ;)
Tykain
04-01-2009, 08:59 PM
I agree with Laika.
Beside, saying it portray women as sex objects so it's wrong it's just like saying movies or games that involve killing (so most of them) are wrong because it portray us as murderers.
There is a huge gap between fantasy and reality, and people can make the difference. That's true for movies, porn, games and everything else.
Laika
04-01-2009, 09:04 PM
What about gay porn? No women there.
Haza103
04-01-2009, 09:05 PM
I part agree with the Colster. Women are definately portrayed as sexual objects. I would safely say that Tomb raider wouldn't be as good a game if Lara Croft didn't have such big melons. I'm not saying the same for men, but i do agree with Laika in a way, Porn is not the root of all evil.
I also now realise that the comment on my gamercard is not too appropriate for this subject.......... Please see the avenue Q side of it.....
Wilebore
04-01-2009, 09:10 PM
yeah lara croft is kept unsexy by getting angelina jolie to act her in the movie...oh burn.
Deathvein
04-01-2009, 09:14 PM
As long as it's legal porn (Everyone is consenting, no under aged girls, etc) then there is nothing wrong with it.
My thoughts exactly.
I get the gasms, porn producers get the monehz and the chicks get the dicks.
Everyone's a winner!
Whoops, just noticed 'Serious Discussion'. Heh, I'm in quite the predicament! :curtain:
But seriously? I don't think it's wrong.
It's not like the 'actors' don't have a choice. They decide if they want to be part of these films and what not. They're not being exploited.
Illegal porn, as Tykain said, is a different story, but I won't go into that.
Wilebore
04-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Deathvein hit the nail on the head. 2 points.
Haza103
04-01-2009, 09:28 PM
Deathvein hit the nail on the head. 2 points.
Well, he's probably the only one in here happy to announce " i watch porn!!!"
But yea, he's pretty much summed it up in one!
Wilebore
04-01-2009, 09:34 PM
well done deathvein. :)
ardjoe
04-01-2009, 10:40 PM
I think that girls that are naturally pretty and fit, often turn out to be quite thick, dumb or 'blonde' (stereotype I know, not all mega fit girls are dumb) and when they really have nothing else to offer to society the route down to pornoland can seem quite appealing. They just let their body do the talking. Porn is a good way for men to get their sex drive and without it, think how many more rapes or random stranger tit staring there will be.
So for those reasons I think legal porn is right.
Richie
04-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Random stranger tit staring... sounds like a sport.
VvoicezZ
04-01-2009, 10:50 PM
Yes, it's OK. I'm more into HENTAI kind though.
moogin
04-01-2009, 10:53 PM
My thoughts exactly.
I get the gasms, porn producers get the monehz and the chicks get the dicks.
Everyone's a winner!
Whoops, just noticed 'Serious Discussion'. Heh, I'm in quite the predicament! :curtain:
But seriously? I don't think it's wrong.
It's not like the 'actors' don't have a choice. They decide if they want to be part of these films and what not. They're not being exploited.
Illegal porn, as Tykain said, is a different story, but I won't go into that.
Here here i couldn't agree more . Btw first part had me in stitches :D
Laika
04-01-2009, 10:58 PM
At least porn is less degrading than working in Telemarketing or Children's television.
Exposure!
steedster
05-01-2009, 07:04 AM
Porn is a good way for men to get their sex drive and without it, think how many more rapes or random stranger tit staring there will be.
So for those reasons I think legal porn is right.
Really good argument there, if some men didn't have porn they would have to get there sexual and potentially dangerous fantasies somewhere else.
Wilebore
05-01-2009, 10:54 AM
everyone has a different opinion about porn.
Deathvein
05-01-2009, 01:46 PM
everyone has a different opinion about porn.
Well done!
We've cracked the case. :P
Wilebore
05-01-2009, 01:55 PM
haha yes yes we have. lmfao.
WeLsh_bEn
05-01-2009, 03:46 PM
Well if you see it with mates its feels ok and when you sometimes watch it its good when you watch it but afterwords i feel sorta guilty.
Wilebore
05-01-2009, 04:49 PM
you feel guilty? thats a new one.
Deathvein
05-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Well if you see it with mates its feels ok and when you sometimes watch it its good when you watch it but afterwords i feel sorta guilty.
Everything about that sentence is just plain wrong. :P
davidtcawley
05-01-2009, 06:04 PM
I just don't think you can categorise things into right or wrong, if only the world were that simple. Just watch it and w**k. Or don't. It's entirely your choice.
Wilebore
05-01-2009, 08:43 PM
sorta wat i said dude.
iSmiff
05-01-2009, 09:09 PM
I think anyone who is embaressed or feels strange about porn is odd. Firstly, we were all born naked. Back in the day when they had no clothes, you think they were as pathetic as todays society? Nerrrrrr, didn't think so.
Aslong as they are over 18 (Although I can't see why its not 16, since its legal to have sex anyway. Not complaining, just wondering) I can't see the problem with it. It provides both men, and women with pleasure watching it, and being involved in it, and it pays some peoples wages.
Whats the problem? Its largely restricted anyway. Fair enough; young minds maybe shouldn't be subjected to it, a maybe they are not ready, but still, thats down to the parents.
Laika
06-01-2009, 06:26 AM
I think anyone who is embaressed or feels strange about porn is odd. Firstly, we were all born naked. Back in the day when they had no clothes, you think they were as pathetic as todays society? Nerrrrrr, didn't think so.
Aslong as they are over 18 (Although I can't see why its not 16, since its legal to have sex anyway. Not complaining, just wondering) I can't see the problem with it. It provides both men, and women with pleasure watching it, and being involved in it, and it pays some peoples wages.
Whats the problem? Its largely restricted anyway. Fair enough; young minds maybe shouldn't be subjected to it, a maybe they are not ready, but still, thats down to the parents.
In my eyes pornography is no more detrimental to one's development/well-being than say, an abattoir or watching The Shining at a very young age (Guilty, that said, I also saw A Clockwork Orange at 12, and I seem to be fine.) The 16/18 thing strikes me as somewhat odd too, maybe it's a two year practice period? In all seriouness, there isn't really a justifiable reason that someone who is legally allowed to engage in sexual intercourse can't legally watch others do the same. So what, if you're 16-18, you're meant to legally close you're eyes or something?:vanish:
PandaPanic!
06-01-2009, 07:52 AM
The 16/18 thing strikes me as somewhat odd too, maybe it's a two year practice period?
Ha Ha Laika you are such a funny guy :P And i think one big reason why they might want to restrict porn is because if they get addicted to it they might actually go out attacking people for it instead of watching it.
judder01
06-01-2009, 02:51 PM
Ahh, this thread has made me laugh so much. :D Especially Deathvein :P
Darth_Eskimo
06-01-2009, 03:00 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc
:P
blake_
06-01-2009, 03:09 PM
im sure every man looks at page 3, but then porn can be taken to more lengths
Wilebore
06-01-2009, 03:33 PM
I think anyone who is embaressed or feels strange about porn is odd. Firstly, we were all born naked. Back in the day when they had no clothes, you think they were as pathetic as todays society? Nerrrrrr, didn't think so.
Aslong as they are over 18 (Although I can't see why its not 16, since its legal to have sex anyway. Not complaining, just wondering) I can't see the problem with it. It provides both men, and women with pleasure watching it, and being involved in it, and it pays some peoples wages.
Whats the problem? Its largely restricted anyway. Fair enough; young minds maybe shouldn't be subjected to it, a maybe they are not ready, but still, thats down to the parents.
quiet right.
iSmiff
06-01-2009, 04:10 PM
Glad im not voicing a single opinion. It's not like I watch it 24/7, or even every day for that matter. >_<
Wilebore
06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
or even once a week..
SimplySupreme
07-01-2009, 02:19 PM
I think the question is a bit too vague, I mean, right or wrong in what sense? Legality? Morally? Personally?
At the end of the day, as a generalised area, to star in a porno is simply a choice people make, noones forced to do it and those who do it for the money because they need to are only forcing themselves.
If they didnt think it was worth being seen all over various media outlets and risking diesease, then they probably wouldnt do it but who knows, for some people, its THE ideal job
Wilebore
07-01-2009, 03:23 PM
i think it is about the exploitation of women (and i dont think it is.)
SimplySupreme
07-01-2009, 08:54 PM
Then i revert back to my original point, noones being exploited, its down to personal choice.
You reap what you sow, if you choose to perform in a porno flick, the consequences are something you have to deal with.
I dont buy the fact that its exploitation, simply because other people may have no other choices in life. Theres always avenues for all people to take, the money in porn just happens to be too good to turn down for some people.
MrSmith
07-01-2009, 11:31 PM
I think it is pretty disgusting. I was watching videos on redtube one day and my eyes hurt afterwards.
Deathvein
08-01-2009, 07:16 AM
Redtube is shit.
Unless you like butter on both sides, that is.
Wilebore
08-01-2009, 03:18 PM
i think Hentai is quite weird, and Lucy Pinder is quite intelligent and shes a top flight model.
dogsforlife
08-01-2009, 04:16 PM
I think that girls that are naturally pretty and fit, often turn out to be quite thick, dumb or 'blonde' (stereotype I know, not all mega fit girls are dumb) and when they really have nothing else to offer to society the route down to pornoland can seem quite appealing. They just let their body do the talking. Porn is a good way for men to get their sex drive and without it, think how many more rapes or random stranger tit staring there will be.
So for those reasons I think legal porn is right.
i agree with the quote and Wilebore's comment about lucy pinder being intelligent
Scowie
08-01-2009, 05:27 PM
I dont think its wrong as about 70% of the net is it and also you get $$$$$$$$$$ MEGA BUCKS !
Marts_
08-01-2009, 10:34 PM
Dat question is a bit wrong for a discussion!!!
Nirvlime
09-01-2009, 04:42 AM
I'm not gonna even lie. I really like porn - and I have a pretty bountiful sex life so it's not a filler for something I'm missing...I just enjoy it. It's not like the girls didn't agree to do it! Doing it just because they need money is prostitution not porn. Those girls like sex and get turned on at the thought of being filmed.
And there's plenty of gay porn and girls who like to watch porn to see the guys so yeah...
PandaPanic!
09-01-2009, 07:11 AM
It has it's advantages and disadvantages turn on's and turn off's at the end of the day everyone has their own opinion about it and there are all different kinds of it now to full fill peoples desires, fantasy's and needs.
wrightandrewjames
11-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Without porn the internet would not be what it is today. No joke.
I agree as long as it is legal there is nothing wrong with it. It's been around for years, well before our technological distribution. The Romans and Greeks had their own porn drama things and what's good enough for them is good enough for us. And sex has been around even longer.
There does however need to be a way to better restrict young children from porn on the net. It is far too easy to search something quite innocent and end up with questionable results.
Doddsy
11-01-2009, 12:42 PM
You're avatar seem to show that it is a particularly wrong thing.
I don't see any problems with it as long as everything is done following legal practices.
blake_
11-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Without porn the internet would not be what it is today. No joke.
I agree as long as it is legal there is nothing wrong with it. It's been around for years, well before our technological distribution. The Romans and Greeks had their own porn drama things and what's good enough for them is good enough for us. And sex has been around even longer.
There does however need to be a way to better restrict young children from porn on the net. It is far too easy to search something quite innocent and end up with questionable results.
porn generats lots of money for the internet
CraigyBL2
15-01-2009, 04:35 PM
The whole porn scene doesn't matter to me much it's just for blokes who aint getting any and its a violation of women, or as Laika added, men. Yes, the party may consent to being portrayed in that way but it's so much more "right" when it's with someone you love and want to be with.
Laika
15-01-2009, 05:31 PM
But who's to say that it being with someone you don't love is wrong? But yeah, you're right Craig.
PandaPanic!
15-01-2009, 08:42 PM
I don't agree with only people who ain't getting it watch porn, i know lots of people who have done stuff and they still watch porn quiet frequently!
ugabugaz
15-01-2009, 11:56 PM
It's not wrong. It doesn't hurt anyone, on the contrary it may actually help:
-Reduce Stress
-Invigorate the Senses
-Make you use your brain
-Make you live longer
No one was ever hurt from doing stuff that felt good, right? ^_^
If you feel that porn is "wrong" you can just avoid it, its not like someone is forcing you to watch it, or participate.
Laika
16-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Uga, see: Heroin. ;) It's all about moderation, EVERYTHING is.
Malik
16-01-2009, 05:47 PM
I have no offence agaist porn
ugabugaz
16-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Uga, see: Heroin. ;) It's all about moderation, EVERYTHING is.
Yes but heroin hurts people therefore its bad.
No one was ever hurt from doing stuff that felt good, right? ^_^
I was being sarcastic there btw.
Laika
16-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Yes but heroin hurts people therefore its bad.
I was being sarcastic there btw.
So was I ;)
RGL_UK
25-01-2009, 07:08 PM
The whole porn scene doesn't matter to me much it's just for blokes who aint getting any and its a violation of women, or as Laika added, men. Yes, the party may consent to being portrayed in that way but it's so much more "right" when it's with someone you love and want to be with.
Im sorry i am going to have to totally disagree with most of that!
You say porn is for people who aint "getting any" .. but i am doing fine at the moment and yet i still watch it.
But i do agree with its so much better with someone you love.
ardjoe
25-01-2009, 07:12 PM
It's not wrong. It doesn't hurt anyone, on the contrary it may actually help:
-Reduce Stress
-Invigorate the Senses
-Make you use your brain
-Make you live longer
No one was ever hurt from doing stuff that felt good, right? ^_^
If you feel that porn is "wrong" you can just avoid it, its not like someone is forcing you to watch it, or participate.
- Make you blind.
blake_
29-01-2009, 04:05 PM
lesbians and straight girls also get of on porn its not just men.
Sneeches
29-01-2009, 04:27 PM
porn is a good thing, and not hurting anyone so just let them be :)
dhruvanay
12-02-2009, 08:16 PM
lmao it depend on the person self esteem
iMatty-
03-03-2009, 03:14 PM
Well, if the young girls that need money, basically I disagree with people being paid to lose their virginity, but if they need the money and it is not there first time then why not? What would happen to them if they never got the money? Besides they are probably gonna 'be in the mood' later on and go with some randomer. >.>
personally i see nothing wrong with porn but i can see why people would view it as wrong but at the end of the day who's more wrong
the people who make it?
or the people who keep the industry alive by using it?
kashkash786
08-04-2009, 12:25 AM
my mind tells me its wrong but it feels so right! :), well realistically IMO the people that say it's awful and stuff are the ones getting busy in their own homes, hypocrites! lol
RotaryRex
08-04-2009, 12:42 AM
Right - providing it is not hurting anyone and is legal by all accounts of moral stature. I maybe coming across a little biased as my previous girlfriend was an escort and had done various movies for small time british companies but providing it is not hurting anyone and everyone involved is aware of what is what and concents then whats the problem? After all prostitution which is different imo but still revolves around a person getting paid for sexual acts is the longest exisitng form of work in human history. Like i said aslong as its not hurting anyone then whats wrong with it? After all there are far worse things happening in the world than pornography.
gr0undp0und
08-04-2009, 02:21 PM
I watch it, I watch it with my wife too.
Neither of us find it degrading.... No reason to, they're both consenting adults. Both of legal limit too.
It's not a case if it is right or wrong. Porn (and it's affiliates i.e. prostitution) are the oldest industries known to man. It will never change.
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