world Tendancy

[tonydude]

Hi, im trying to get a pure white tendency, but i dont really know what its should look like in the map. The five towers have have something in them which looks like a bulb. Stonefang Latria and The shrine of storms are bright and i have them completed. Boletarian Palace and the valley have the two main bosses left , oh valley has the Colossus also. Im wondering will i get pure white when i complete these and is there any othere ways to get pure white other than killing invading black phantoms.

[samsengir]

The Plinths will glow a bright pink colour when they are at Pure White although it is very hard to distinguish between Pure White and White....
I don't know much about online changing of World Tendency TBH. But I do know about offline.
Your best bet is to get the world to Pure Black with one boss left. Then kill the unique Black Phantom NPC and the Primeval Demon and lastly the world boss. Guaranteed Pure White, as the change in tendency from killing the unique BP NPC and the Primeval is huge in comparison to any other World Tendency changing event.

[tonydude]

if i cause the world to be pure black will that continue into the new game

[samsengir]

if i cause the world to be pure black will that continue into the new game

Yes. Whatever the respective World Tendencies were when you finish the game is what they will start as on the next playthrough.

[Nera1985]

If you get your World Tendency to Pure Black then go online and invade another players game, it should reset your World Tendencies to Neutral if you die whilst invading. Not sure why it does it but it worked for me, just saves a bit of time thats all.

[tonydude]

Guaranteed Pure White, as the change in tendency from killing the unique BP NPC and the Primeval is huge in comparison to any other World Tendency changing event.

So, your saying by getting pure black and then killing those primeval and the unique bp npc i will get pure white.? Where can i find the unique bp npc

[tonydude]

Sorry for all the questions, but ive heard theres a big difference in difficulty in NG+. What level is recommended before finishing the game to make the NG+ easier. Im level 70 at the moment. Also im holding all the souls of the demons so i can unlock the miracles trophy and then just quit the game to keep them, will this work ?

[Nera1985]

What level is recommended before finishing the game to make the NG+ easier. Im level 70 at the moment.

I was level 80 before I went into NG+, but most importantly collect as many weapons and rings as you can in your first playthrough. Armour is not so important because enemies tend to do alot of damage no matter what you wear. I put about 30 - 35 points in Vitality and he could hold his own pretty well, even in NG+++. Its best not to spread out points to much though but even if you did it wouldn't be too big of a deal, tactics are much more important. Pick either Dexterity or Strength as you major melee skill and decide what type of melee weapons you want to use.


Also im holding all the souls of the demons so i can unlock the miracles trophy and then just quit the game to keep them, will this work ?

I played through 3.5 times so I'm not too familiar with this. I wonder if its safe to do this, it may corrupt the save file but I could be wrong.


So, your saying by getting pure black and then killing those primeval and the unique bp npc i will get pure white.? Where can i find the unique bp npc

Check this link to find the NPC's:

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/npcs

[samsengir]

So, your saying by getting pure black and then killing those primeval and the unique bp npc i will get pure white.? Where can i find the unique bp npc

No. I think I've been inadvertantly misquoted. Earlier in the paragraph I mentioned that you must have one boss left. Any boss but it is most useful if it is the third and last boss as this is the final world tendency changing event that will push you to Pure White.
Of course I am assuming here that you are not playing online (in the event of the "online glitch"), that you are playing in soul form all the way and that you are playing with the latest game patch applied. All these precautions are for your own sanity lest anything go wrong...
:D


Sorry for all the questions, but ive heard theres a big difference in difficulty in NG+. What level is recommended before finishing the game to make the NG+ easier. Im level 70 at the moment. Also im holding all the souls of the demons so i can unlock the miracles trophy and then just quit the game to keep them, will this work ?
No probs about questioning buddy. As they say "don't ask, don't get".
The difference in NG+ is quite huge compared to NG but you are armed now with the most important of weapons. Prior knowledge of level layout and enemy vulnerabilities. Proceed to NG+ whenever you are ready. There is no set level you need to be for it.
Miracles... the game should save as soon as you use a soul up meaning that quitting and reloading shouldn't work. You can of course always try quitting by utilising the XMB as quick as possible in the hope that it didn't register but as mentioned before this is risky and may corrupt your information. I personally have never tried it so don't know though.
However there is one method that should guarantee what you are trying to do. Copy the save file before you use all your souls. The only way I can suggest is to do a full back up (haven't actually tried this with Demons Souls but it works with other copy-protected save files I have) then play the game and get all the miracles. Synch the trophies and then do a full restore which should give your old save back.
Alternatively you could have three characters and make one your spellcaster (two playthroughs), another being the miracle caster (one playthrough) and one being the weapon collector (one and a bit playthroughs).

[samsengir]

If you get your World Tendency to Pure Black then go online and invade another players game, it should reset your World Tendencies to Neutral if you die whilst invading. Not sure why it does it but it worked for me, just saves a bit of time thats all.

Whoops at the double post but this really does need a reply.
Once you leave Pure Black then if you haven't killed them already the unique BP NPC will not be there anymore. Likewise the Primeval won't be there either which means you have just lost your chance of getting the biggest jump to Pure White that you could possibly have. Although you can always go and get Pure Black again.

[tonydude]

when do the primevals appear though. i think ill leave the trophy thing alone as ill be playing it a couple of times anyway. Does anyone have a goog trophy guide out or even an official guide

[Lewis Grindell]

when do the primevals appear though. i think ill leave the trophy thing alone as ill be playing it a couple of times anyway. Does anyone have a goog trophy guide out or even an official guide

Here: http://www.ps3trophies.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=381&d=1249004167

[Nera1985]

Whoops at the double post but this really does need a reply.
Once you leave Pure Black then if you haven't killed them already the unique BP NPC will not be there anymore. Likewise the Primeval won't be there either which means you have just lost your chance of getting the biggest jump to Pure White that you could possibly have. Although you can always go and get Pure Black again.

I did it the long way unfortunately :(. Still enjoyably though.

[samsengir]

when do the primevals appear though. i think ill leave the trophy thing alone as ill be playing it a couple of times anyway. Does anyone have a goog trophy guide out or even an official guide

Primevals appear at Near Pure Black World Tendency whereas the unique BP NPC only appears at Pure Black. It does mean that if you see a Primeval without checking for the NPC then you may not be in Pure Black and if you kill the Primeval will then have little chance of getting to Pure White on that playthrough.
And I do suggest you do as much as you can towards trophies on the first playthrough. You see the game gets harder and easier with respect to World Tendency.

[tonydude]

are the unique npc like the woman on the first level where the gates are open on the left hand side

[samsengir]

are the unique npc like the woman on the first level where the gates are open on the left hand side

Yes. That would be Miralda. She sometimes appears on the loading screens along with every other unique character in the game.
Every world has just one which will only appear at Pure White and Pure Black.
1 - Miralda the Executioner.
2 - Scirvir the Wanderer.
3 - Lord Rydyell/Rydell.
4 - Satsuki.
5 - Selen Vinland.

Edit: When I say "appear" I should have said interactable. For example Rydyell in Neutral will appear in a cell. You can talk to him but you can't do anything else. Satsuki can be seen on top of the archway but can't be spoken to.