Justice Yemen Style for Paedophile

[MrJinxy]

Nice :D

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1197900/Justice-Yemen-style-Paedophile-raped-boy-11-shot-head-hundreds-spectators.html

[CraigyBL2]

Firstly "Nice :)" is not the sort of comment you should be leaving in a serious discussion thread, it is not going to go down to well and it's slightly disrespectful. Looking at the pictures you can't help but feel sorry for the man who has fear printed across his face almost to the extent where you forget the heinous crime this man has actually commited. If you contextualize the crime this man has commited it's easy to sympathise with the family of the young boy as this kind of execution would surely serve the family justice and defer future criminals from commiting such horrific acts. At the age of 11, the boy had his whole life ahead of him yet it was cut short by the barber, why should this man be allowed to continue his life when he has brutally taken someone elses without any thought to the consequences it would cause for the boys family and friends.

[Haza103]

I myself think it is right. Maybe not in front of all those people, but i do agree with capital punishment and all that. I bet nobody who saw him get killed is going to try what he did!

[NB]

I'm surprised people actually came and watched the execution.

[vertigu9219]

No surprise that this is in the daily mail they are only a step away from printing "ten ways to kill a kiddy fiddler". Right wing rag.

[MrJinxy]

Firstly "Nice :)" is not the sort of comment you should be leaving in a serious discussion thread, it is not going to go down to well and it's slightly disrespectful.

I used "Nice" because the sicko was caught and a proper punishment was carried out, i agree with the whole thing, the crowds are there to humiliate him for what he has done, it wouldnt be the same if it was done it a quiet room behind closed doors. If anything, this guy got off likely, should of been far more then a bullet to the head.

[Laika]

This isn't even an eye for an eye, this is 'poke me in the eye, I rip your nuts off'. I'm tempted to even call it barbaric, however I can see why people would sympathise with this sort of punishment, it's part of certain cultures. However, this has absolutely no place in our society, regardless of how bad a crime is.

[Murton]

I'm tempted to even call it barbaric

You wouldn't be wrong, it is barbaric.

[kool_ari]

Look at all those people, can you tell everyone loves seeing someone else suffer, the greater the punishment, the more people it attracts?
Maybe this is incorrect, maybe the more pain observed the more people it attracts. Any thoughts?

[CraigyBL2]

People love drama, you see it time and time again. If a fight develops between two people you can always guarantee a little crowd will develop just to watch the suffering of others. Granted you do get the selected few who will shy away from trouble but as a whole people love to see suffering aslong as it isn't themselves or people they are close to. It's quite sickening how people would watch this act and I have to admit that the execution, if it should morally commited anyway, should not be put on display for so many people because regardless of what he has done this man is a human being after all and his family and friends probably still do care about him, I guess we all make mistakes and his execution should not be so publicized.

[the_only_moggy]

It's a tricky one to be sure, I mean capital punishment is such a dangerous thing, not only for the chance of getting it wrong (although the lengthy appeal system in the US seems to cut down on that issue) but also because as the paranoid that I am, I don't like my government having the power to legally kill me for whatever reason they feel they can get past friends, family, and the media.

However, paedophile's, child molestor's, rapists destroy lives in such a way as we can't possibly imagine. The sheer disgtusting, despicable nature of the crime almost demands such a response. Then again Paedophile's apparently don't last long in prison anyway.

I guess the bottom line for me though is that paedophilia and serial raping is an incurable disease, no amount of therapy, pills, or teddy bear hugs will cure them. They can't even castrate them, since all that did was force them to get 'creative' (I'm not trying to be gross, but believe me 'creative' is the mildest explanation for what they will do), they are sick and even if they realise what they do is wrong, they will have to fight themselves every day of their lives. Maybe death is too much, or maybe its too lenient, but I personally would rather we both put them out of their misery and made people a little bit safer.

[MrJinxy]

This isn't even an eye for an eye, this is 'poke me in the eye, I rip your nuts off'. I'm tempted to even call it barbaric

So if your son/little brother or even wife/girlfriend was abducted, raped and cut up into pieces your feelings wouldn't want this man killed...? Instead you would want this man to serve life (in our case 20 years) in prison, with free meals, a TV/Playstation then be released a free man... i honestly don't believe your being truthful.

Life for a life should be the case, in this case it was and i agree with what was done. Not so much the public execution but it just makes the guy feel humiliated before his killed, nothing like that poor child was feeling whilst being raped and killed... its sickening what this man done!

[Nagisa24]

theres no argument the prick deserved to die. i'd go and watch if they did it in this country, hell i'd even shoot him right in his fucking head. sick bastards need to be punished. and all you hippies on here need to sort your lifes out.

[CraigyBL2]

theres no argument the prick deserved to die. i'd go and watch if they did it in this country, hell i'd even shoot him right in his fucking head. sick bastards need to be punished. and all you hippies on here need to sort your lifes out.

To certain extents I agree with you but claiming people to be "hippies" on a serious discussion forum is not mature or sensible especially not when one of those people you're aiming it at is a moderator. There is always going to be conflicting opinions but you should respect what others say and not be so quick with your insults because it will cause people offence as well as myself.

[Nagisa24]

fair enough dude.apologies if i offended anyone. ;)

[HarryT1pper]

I have to say the death penalty has the oppertunity to bring about a much needed solution to a lot of problems the world incurs by housing said criminals. It would be interesting to see how much a prisoner costs the tax payer a year, and then how much they all cost. Then compared to the cost of a single bullet per criminal and I am sure we could look at an oppertunity to drop tax. The fact of the matter is how important are these peoples lives to you and them being able to live their life till the natural end? To me I would sooner save the cash and have a country (England) with some real punishments brought forward. I would rather see my tax money go to the schools, hospitals etc and things that are going to help me and all deserved people rather than house, feed, clothe a rapist/peadophile/murderer/robber/torturer etc etc.
Honestly in my own personal feelings I feel that the man got off lightly, I know he died and that probably sounds odd as he died but there are worse ways to go like his poor victim discovered.
The execution of criminals to my sitings could go to aid the world in so many ways, in that it puts others off, it helps other sectors of government and it could even help to stop this economical crisis by lowering tax and giving people greater freedom to spend cash (though Gordon Brown would most likely keep the tax). The only draw back is that the wrong person may be executed and with our police force how it is I would trust the conclusions made by the government about as far as I can throw them.

[Soultaker-9999]

I do not see what the fuss is about, the footage is incredibly tame compared to many, eg the infamous iraqi beheading videos, furthermore I myself have a 28month old daughter and I imagine anyone else with kids would agree this guy deserved every gram of lead that was blasted into his skull.

[RGL_UK]

Matthew 18:6:
Whoever shall hurt one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

[RD]

I agree that this man should have recieved capital punishment, but like Laika said, the ways are absolutely barbaric and shouldn't be used. If you read the article, you would have also read...


All of those died by firing squad but in recent years there have been reports of stonings and beheadings.

which is far more brutal than required. Stoning could even be classified as torture. The country needs to adopt the electric chair and lethal injection in my opinion. Yemen will never recieve respect from other countries with barbaric executions such as this, stoning and beheadings.

[Sympathie]

Thats crazy.:shocked2:

[imahobo]

I agree that this man should have recieved capital punishment, but like Laika said, the ways are absolutely barbaric and shouldn't be used. If you read the article, you would have also read...



which is far more brutal than required. Stoning could even be classified as torture. The country needs to adopt the electric chair and lethal injection in my opinion. Yemen will never recieve respect from other countries with barbaric executions such as this, stoning and beheadings.

barbaric it may be, but there is very little rape crimes happening in there country compared to the us, i thinking it may have something to do with the punishments usa-9months in jail yemin-public exacution...

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ym-yemen/cri-crime
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us-united-states/cri-crime

[Laika]

Hobo, it's not all about crime rates. I'm pretty sure if we killed every person who stole a Mars Bar from Tesco, then the crime rates for that particular crime would plummet. Just, it's inhumane and violates every pussy'ole liberal fibre about me.

[imahobo]

i dont disagree when you say its barbaric/inhumane, and i dont mean for minor offences there should be punishments like this, but mabey when someone is proved without any doubt to be guilty of commiting of a crime like this (of which there are 1000's of them in the us/uk) they should be punished just as severe and just as publicly, then mabey our rates wouldnt be as high as it is!

i dont agree with the stoning someone or any other kind of torture method, but death and humiliation for a serious crime as what has been commited i cant help but feel he got off lighty. i also understand he probably didnt get any kind of trial and was no doubt tortured into a confession, so i guess my point is i dont disagree with te method of his exacution but i do disagree with the path that got him to that point.
if that makes sense?

[Transcendence]

You know we live in the 21st century in a western society right? People would object to people being slaughtered on public display. It's such a terrible idea, and just as punishments and laws change, the criminals change their methods to suit it.

It would take more than capital punishment to lower crimes a great deal.

[Nagisa24]

i think people would love to go and watch a public execution. think how many people flood to the cinema to watch some torture porn bollocks like hostel and saw. we all love a bit of violence deep down. some more than others.

[Transcendence]

You serious? Hostel or Saw weren't torture porn at all. They were just torture films. Albeit torture isn't the same as execution but your idea that people would show up to executions is ridiculous.

[Nagisa24]

i'd show up.

[Transcendence]

Speak for yourself then.

[Laika]

Being a sadistic cunt and professing that 'most people' are also sadistic cunts are two very different kettles of fish. Plus public executions of real people and slasher films, most people don't exactly draw parallels.

[Nagisa24]

fine i'm a sadistic cunt then. you say it like its a bad thing. god i hate people with morals.

[imahobo]

lets not turn this into a pointless argument, we are all going to have different views on a subject like this!

[Laika]

fine i'm a sadistic cunt then. you say it like its a bad thing. god i hate people with morals.

Words cannot describe exactly how I feel right nor, nor can I vocalize it into rational thought... If you didn't have morals you wouldn't be here right now, you'd have killed anywho who ever slightly irritated you, raped for funsies and been locked up a long, long, long time again. Don't spin that bullshit here at it makes you sound like an attention whore.

[Nagisa24]

i was joking. you'll stop giving a shit about things like this as you get older and more bitter. fair enough your point about morals though.

[imahobo]

right lets just leave it at that guys!

[Nagisa24]

fair point hobo. apologies.

[CraigyBL2]

These kinds of threads are always going to stir up controversy because when views oppose we generally want to reason and debate. It's never wrong to debate but when debate turns to insults the slippery slope effect takes total control of the thread. I understand this thread may be a very touchy subject for some and the moralities are very real here so I'd encourage people to speak with the utmost respect, why lower our standards guys? Keep the opinions flowing.

[Transcendence]

"Slippery slope effect"

Craigy's sophistication has increased by a good 9,000% since my leave of absence.

You are right though. Debate is fine, but when it gets down to petty insults, that's where the fine line is drawn.