The British National Party

[Laika]

'Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers.'

'When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish.'

'On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.'

'We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom.'

'We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid.'

'We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete.
We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality.
We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.'

Not paraphrased, not taken out of context. Directly copypasted from their website.

Personally I think they're a bunch of dangerous lunatics, but what do all of you guys think?

[PandaPanic!]

Well firstly I don't think the BNP reducing foreign imports will do much for this country at all because there are plenty of jobs if you look hard enough ... sadly our society has realised that they can get away with sitting on their ass in front of the TV getting hand outs. Also i would really like to see them restore discipline in the classroom, we all know they are talking about bringing back corporal punishment ... too bad it does fuck all, sure it would teach all the 13 year old brats a lesson but we all know it won't do fuck all because back when it was around people always used to fuck around like they do now.

I also see nothing wrong with Britain giving aid to other countries I am sure if there was a serious crisis over here that other countries would support us in our time of need, besides you don't give to receive and I think it goes to show what a nice country England and the United Kingdom is even if we are sometimes a bunch of grumpy ass holes. Lastly we all know that the BNP is the new generation of the NAZI party for England and will only isolate us from the rest of the world.

[blake_]

i agree that we should not medel in other contries affairs as it makes us look bad to other contires and we lose friends.

side note: anyone see their leader get hit with eggs?

[Haggies]

They are a group of facists that pry on the prejudices of the ignorant. And they should all be pelted with eggs until they learn to stop being xenophobic halfwits.

[Scowie]

Voted Bnp !

[Laika]

Scowie, what're your reasons for doing so?

[Yamaharu243]

Voted Bmp !

*facepalm* dude if your going to do the wrong thing at least spell it right or they'll expell you from the country on the basis of not writing english properly T^T

and personally, if these jackasses get voted into power, i'am thinking a 'children of men' scenario will play itself out >.>

[parasitegod666]

BNP!!! all the way!!!

BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS

[Haza103]

I think they would have half decent policies if it wasn't for the whole racism part. Britains got it's own problems that need to come first before anyone else. That's why i think it was better to vote UKIP.

[Yamaharu243]

BNP!!! all the way!!!

BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS

ehem, yeah, you know all of those people on the BNP panphlet? in the pictures?

guess what, they were americans :D

[Scowie]

BNP!!! all the way!!!

BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS

100% AGREE matey

[Haggies]

BNP!!! all the way!!!

BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS

Your name says it all, you are a parasite for voting BNP.

Why don't you read a history book on Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy or Stalin's Russia, there is never an excuse to resort to facism. I refer you to my comment above about prejudiced xenophobia being a result of ignorance.

[Scowie]

Your name says it all, you are a parasite for voting BNP.

Not really.

[Haza103]

Your name says it all, you are a parasite for voting BNP.

Why don't you read a history book on Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy or Stalin's Russia, there is never an excuse to resort to facism. I refer you to my comment above about prejudiced xenophobia being a result of ignorance.

Well u said u were against fascism..... Funny how you don't like the fact they were VOTED into power.

[thegreatadam]

I don't agree with what the BNP stand for, and I think if you asked what their policies are on things like the NHS they wouldn't have a clue, but I can completely understand why some people are voting for them, and I dont think badly of anyone who has voted for them, everyone is entitled to vote for who they want and for what they believe in.
On the matter of immigration, its all well and good looking like the nice country to the rest of thd world, but its that old phrase of 'nice guys finish last' that sticks in my mind, I just wish we would be selfish for once and think about helping our own people and sorting out our own problems first.

[civilred1]

BNP NEED TO FUCKING DIE AND ROT IN HELL!!!! THERE ARE NO WORSE PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE, THEY ARE FUCKING RACIST TWATS!!! THEY GET ME SOO FUCKING ANGRY!!!!


Side note: _Blake, I saw that, funny as

[Scowie]

BNP NEED TO FUCKING DIE AND ROT IN HELL!!!! THERE ARE NO WORSE PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE, THEY ARE FUCKING RACIST TWATS!!! THEY GET ME SOO FUCKING ANGRY!!!!


Side note: _Blake, I saw that, funny as

Thats why we vote :D

[civilred1]

Thats why we vote :D

But we voted and they got 2 seats. That's a million more seats than they deserve. If they're up for election, I can guarantee they will win seats, so the only way to stop them is to have someone go out and shoot the lot

[Dom]

I have no reason to hate the BNP, I just will not vote for them when i'm old enough, that is, if they are still around :D

[Haggies]

Well u said u were against fascism..... Funny how you don't like the fact they were VOTED into power.

I've missed your point here... Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were voted into power, yes, prying on people's stupidity with prolonged propoganda campaigns focusing on one slogan about how the country should be more insular... remind you of anything... people can vote whichever way they want, but its my opinion that they should be also understand what exactly they are voting for, the BNP is affiliated with neo-Nazi parties and other facist organisations throughout the world. I feel that people who voted BNP have failed to learn from the history of other countries that have been run by facist and therefore that their ignorance to this fact has allowed their xenophobia and prejudice to justify them voting for a party of questionable values.

[Haza103]

The point im tryin to make is that they were VOTED in, that means there are more people out there than just Nick Griffin who you can hate. Go try egging someone you know voted for the BNP and see their reaction. Proably get your teeth kicked in. Saftey in numbers is all it is, blame this one guy to make yourselves feel better.

[Transcendence]

Racism and prejudice is spawned from ignorance and brainwashing in a society to shit-faced to face up to the fact it's themselves that are the problem. It's childish finding another group of people to blame.

It's also dangerous. Misleading of the people is as someone already said exactly what happened in Germany at one point.

Open your eyes and think for yourselves.

[Haggies]

The point im tryin to make is that they were VOTED in, that means there are more people out there than just Nick Griffin who you can hate. Go try egging someone you know voted for the BNP and see their reaction. Proably get your teeth kicked in. Saftey in numbers is all it is, blame this one guy to make yourselves feel better.

lol, fantastic retort, you really showed me there with such an articulate response to my argument... yawn, i'm done with this rubbish, the three people who are standing up for the BNP in this thread have done nothing but reinforce my belief that all of the supporters in the BNP are just ignorant to the world around them and the lessons of the past.

[Laika]

The point im tryin to make is that they were VOTED in, that means there are more people out there than just Nick Griffin who you can hate. Go try egging someone you know voted for the BNP and see their reaction. Proably get your teeth kicked in. Saftey in numbers is all it is, blame this one guy to make yourselves feel better.

That doesn't make any sense.

Just because they were voted in doesn't legitimise their xenophobic standpoint. Secondly, of course they're attacking Nick Griffin, he's the leader of this xenophobic group, the one creating support.

Exactly what could would come from 'egging' a single BNP supporter? You wouldn't perform a military coup d'etat by going into a single civilian's house now, would you?

[thegreatadam]

quick question: whats xenophobic?

[Laika]

quick question: whats xenophobic?

Definition: Xenophobia is an intense and/or irrational dislike and sometimes fear of people from other countries. (http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBGB321GB321&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:+xenophobic)

[thegreatadam]

Oh right, cheers m8.

[Haza103]

Haggies: I take it you never listen to any politics then? Thats all they do.

Laika: Yea i guess your right, but These people must realise they're gonna be thought of as faschist too when Griffin comes out with stuff like "Yes, Hitler went a bit too far"

[Haggies]

Haggies: I take it you never listen to any politics then? Thats all they do.

All they do in politics is deflect from responding to an articulate argument by telling you to throw eggs at someone who voted for the BNP whereby the person throwing the eggs gets their teeth knocked in.... mmm are you getting Prime Minister's questions mixed up with WWF?

[Haza103]

I don't get what your getting at, probably the same way as you don't get at what i do. What i'm saying is, people seem to be fine at slating Nick Griffin by pelting him with eggs, but when it comes to the people who voted for the BNP no one really gives a shit about what they do. So yea, Griffin may be a dangerous man himself but he can't be without people, and these people vote for him.

Thats where it comes to what i said to Laika about, people who vote for them won't like to be called Faschists, but they pretty much seem like it.

Listen, i ain't here to make enemies, just debate. So hope you understand, if not fair enough, but i don't think i can make it any clearer.

[kuja84]

i for one welcome our new nazi egg covered overlords.

[Laika]

I don't get what your getting at, probably the same way as you don't get at what i do. What i'm saying is, people seem to be fine at slating Nick Griffin by pelting him with eggs, but when it comes to the people who voted for the BNP no one really gives a shit about what they do. So yea, Griffin may be a dangerous man himself but he can't be without people, and these people vote for him.

Thats where it comes to what i said to Laika about, people who vote for them won't like to be called Faschists, but they pretty much seem like it.

Listen, i ain't here to make enemies, just debate. So hope you understand, if not fair enough, but i don't think i can make it any clearer.

Well the supporters of the BNP, that's exactly why I made this thread. I remember having some far-right extremists on here before and wondered if any were active BNP sympathisers or supporters.

Remember when the BNP memeber list came out? Some of them received death threats (not something I encourage, mind) but it shows some people's dedication in tackling all forms of BNP-ship.

The best route of action isn't to egg Griffin, that makes him into a martyr in the eyes of his followers, the victim of a 'brutal' attack. No doubt pinned to the one person of possible racial minority in the crowd, but no matter.

The best way is to get the BNPs policies noticed and not single them out for being a racist party, but just for having absolutely ridiculous policies that could never be feasibly implemented without the British economy and government collapsing to form a neutron star. Hence the quotes.

[Haza103]

Yea agreed. Sure it would be nice for british jobs for british workers and tough immigration policies, just not the racism and all that. That's why i said before, probably better to vote UKIP because as far as i know, their policies were based on tough immigration without the racism.

[gr0undp0und]

But we voted and they got 2 seats. That's a million more seats than they deserve. If they're up for election, I can guarantee they will win seats, so the only way to stop them is to have someone go out and shoot the lot

And that makes you just as bad as them!

Some of the views that BNP have I agree with. Immigration and 'hand outs' are too high. I do not however, agree with the extremist views.

It was only a matter of time before people did vote for them. This country is a mess.

[M-47]

didnt the bnp leader get beaten up the other day by people on the street with there unbrellas

hope he dies

[CraigyBL2]

No political party could ever meet my high maintenance demands. I simply must be king of awesome land and anyone who disagrees gets deported, sounds like a plan to me.

[Nagisa24]

the bnp are too pussyass for me. i need some proper holocaust shit to get me going.

[amplifiedAnt]

We're all off to hell in a hand-basket and I'd rather leave the country before a BNP government became a reality. I'm fucking fed up of the barely literate 'arguments' being presented by the far right and the idiots they've recruited with their barely disguised racism, xenophobia and misplaced anger. Their policies are neo-fascist, there's no getting away from it. Voting BNP as a 'protest vote' is equally fucking illogical. Does nobody remember how the Nazis rose to power?

Hope not hate; tolerance not prejudice.

[WeLsh_bEn]

The thing that angers me is i read the BNP think the holocaust was a conspiracy and they support the Nazi's, now come on if your support this then your totally wrong.

The bnp are just a load of racists and fascists who hate anyone who isn't British.

Why would we want twats like this running our country?

[vertigu9219]

Wanting to be in government should automatically exclude you from doing so..
Parliament is full of people with their own agenda. We need a complete overhaul of the system.

To AmplifiedAnt. The nazi's set fire to the Reichstad and blamed communists in a sort of false flag operation. The german people were inscensed and turned to the loudest voice shouting for justice. That was of course Hitler. Also see G.W Bush after the 9/11 attacks.
Devious scum.

[amplifiedAnt]

I know, you've pretty much nailed my point home - I don't see the current domestic situation as being particularly different.

[eza1701]

The BNP use a 'scapegoat' system to fool people into thinking immigrants are the root of all problems in the country, very much like Hitler used the Jews as a focal point of blame. They also use a common psycological approach of abstracts where a non-tangible thing is given a physical presence. To give an example of this sort of abstract, think of the well known saying 'England expects every man to do his duty'. In this statement 'England' is given a physical presence, what the saying really means is 'The government currently in power expects every man to do his duty' - doesn't sound as inspiring!

One of the BNP's most laughable manifesto statements is to remove anyone who isn't a British national from the country. By 'British National' they refer to anyone whose parents are not british born before 1948. This means if your grandad fought in WW2, met his wife while in France and settled in this country then you are not a British national. Imagine also if all other countries followed suit and sent ex-patriots back to the UK, I think current estimates are around 5.5 million!!!

We are a country rich in history and a population of millions of immigrants in one way or another, Roman, Saxon, Viking etc. and don't forget even the most British institution, the Royal Family has a rich vein of foreign influence through the years.

Hopefully in the future, people will see themselves as part of the human race, not just an inhabitant of part of the planet.

Most important of all, Sony is a Japanese company, they're not going to be too keen on selling them in this country!

[gaz1983uk]

Well firstly I don't think the BNP reducing foreign imports will do much for this country at all because there are plenty of jobs if you look hard enough ... sadly our society has realised that they can get away with sitting on their ass in front of the TV getting hand outs. Also i would really like to see them restore discipline in the classroom, we all know they are talking about bringing back corporal punishment ... too bad it does fuck all, sure it would teach all the 13 year old brats a lesson but we all know it won't do fuck all because back when it was around people always used to fuck around like they do now.



Ok your first point: - Show me these loads of jobs before you start i have been unemployed since Febuary I've signed up to 3 employment agencies, looked on job centre site daily, look on company websites for jobs still i'm unemployed. Why is this if there are loads of jobs? Before you say i've gotten used to sitting down recieving hand outs i currently recieve ZERO money from the government and have done since April hell they were even willing to let myself and my partner sit without any gas, electic for more than the 5 days we did already!

On current stats there is a 20:1 ratio for unemployment to jobs available. Some companies/ Organisations that prided itself on letting you know the outcome either way are unable to keep up with applicants and many are not recieving word (NHS for one)

[amplifiedAnt]

Surely just taking the piss (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8141069.stm) now?

[vertigu9219]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5j2hV-WAfXM-6RefkmHNnqKBG3dAw

I just face palmed.

[amplifiedAnt]

That's what I posted :P

[vertigu9219]

Soz mate. your link just brought me back to this forum.
What a nutter though.

[Laika]

Surely this opinion is grounds for a sectioning? This man is criminally insane, I mean if he even had a shred of intellect, he'd keep stupid opinions like that to himself.

Christ, at least Hitler did the whole racial discrimination thing properly!

[amplifiedAnt]

Soz mate. your link just brought me back to this forum.
What a nutter though.


Yeah, my bad - link was broken.

Incredible stuff though, feels like he's becoming a parody of himself or something.

[HarryT1pper]

I think that the BNP are the extreme side of prejudice and make this nation into a fully fledged Island nation. In that their intentions would see us isolated from the rest of the world.
Sadly I find myself able to agree with one or two things, we do need to review our policies on accepting immigrants. I know even some of the ethnic minorities in the country wish we would because we are a small country already struggling for supplies like food, energy etc. So accepting more and more people seems absurd. Not to mention a minority of people who come into the country just sit on benefits and cause trouble. Yes I know plenty of nationals do already but obviously their lazyness is an entirely different matter.
There was a doctor recently who was put under pressure by the muslim community not to treat British troops. Do not get me wrong on this I have some really good friends who are of varying races/religions and the British army consists of Muslims to. So this strikes me as absurd and I feel extreme views like this need some sort of dealing with. I do not want muslims or anyone deported and far from it as I would lose some great friends. But I would hate to be in hospital and thinking this guy is not treating me properly (though any NHS hospital could be seen that way as it is anyway). I feel the BNP brings changes to things like this in entirely negative way where the community never grows. I want to have a priminister who bridges the gap between all races in Britain and this would lead to a much happier country. Unfortunately this task seems impossible to me so we will just have to make do.
I have to say I am surprised BNP did not say ship all our prisoners to Australia(Y):yes:

[JohnOhhh]

bunch of D***S if you ask me
i, myself am asian, but i've lived in Wales for 11 years, i am 14 years young. i know i'm a kid but i take this very seriously!
they say that the southern side of USA are racist with the KKK and stuff, but this racism and facism is occurring RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES!

what are your views on these racist B******S! worst thing is they think there not racist!