how old is too old to have a baby?

[blake_]

after the new record holder 66 years old is that too old to have a child?
when that child is 10 she will be 76 and most probably dead( no offense) thoughts?

[Yamaharu243]

tbh i think that there should be a sensible age where someone tells themselves that they're too old. I have no issue with people having kids until they're old, they can go for it for all they want if it makes them happy, but how is that kid going to feel if everybody else's parents are young and theirs is way older than everybodies?

Its all a matter of perspective, but i'd say like past 50 years is a way too old.

[Amoras2]

Hmm... Interesting subject :inquisitive:


Well basically, 500 years ago, this wasn't possible because the Medical advances and the technology wasn't available. Most people died before the age of 66.

But now there is better healthcare and lifestyles have improved (staying healthy, no smoking, exercise, etc.). This is of course great, but for an MEDC, like the UK, the ageing population can have negative effects. The younger generations ahve to take care of the older people, and the older people don't work, so they just jam on their lazy asses, while we earn the money for them :bigcry:

While jamming, they choose to have sex (dirty adult sex) and make more babies :uhoh2:

Their bodies are capable of having children (although the older you are, the more chance the baby has a disability). This is a result of the better lifestyles, technology and improvements in medicine :vanish:

When you think about it, this can only have a negative effect on their children. They will be 10 when one of their parents die of old age. Older people also tend to have older cultures and raise their children traditionally :(

I don't really care about this though, because there are more problems going on in this world :undecided:

As a conclusion, I'd like to say that older people should know when to have babies and when not to have babies. At the end of the day, it's their choice and not ours. We should focus on other problems, and not the ageing population...

By the way, I might've gone off-topic here, but these exams make me talk like a retard :dead:

[thegreatadam]

tbh i think that there should be a sensible age where someone tells themselves that they're too old. I have no issue with people having kids until they're old, they can go for it for all they want if it makes them happy, but how is that kid going to feel if everybody else's parents are young and theirs is way older than everybodies?

Its all a matter of perspective, but i'd say like past 50 years is a way too old.

yep, i think i'll go along with 50 being the cut off point really. 66 is WAY too old, shes not going to be able to help her own child through massive parts of their life. Its each to their own, but in my opinion you're already a bad parent if your having a child at 66.

[M-47]

ye 50 is the age were you should stop to evan try and have a baby
1. it brobly not the best thing to be doing at that age ( brest feeding )
2. when the babys 18 the mum will be 68
so ye thats my few

[Nera1985]

The record will be surpassed within a few years in my opinion. Women have many more choices in terms of careers and life style choices these days meaning they will want to put it off till the last minute. Of course we all know the younger you are the better chances you will have of conceiving and less chances of a baby developing certain disabilities.

It's not fair on the child because the child itself could end up looking after it's parent which could possibly stunt a childs development. It won't happen in all cases but it's a possibility.

This sort of selfish behaviour will get out of hand and its only a matter of time before it will become a major problem in our society eg increase in child carers, undeveloped children.

[M-47]

ye surpose

[UNTITLED]

I agree with Nera.

Sorry, Off topic but WOOT, post #100

[Bazzer.]

personally i think no more than 45 years old, you gotta think of the kid.

i mean a 15 year old in high school and someone asks how olds your mum and you say 60, heck gunna get seriousley ragged

[Transcendence]

Subjective.

Although the chance of non-disjunction and mutations during meiosis increases exponentially with age starting at 30.

[RD]

You guys are quoting an age of 10 years old, but in reality, you need more than that for a child to develop and survive on their own (ideally). In the states, kids are in the system until 18, so going based off that, the adult would need 18 years to be able to support a child. Children are not cheap, so I am sure retirement isn't an option, therefore I would choose an age in the mid to late 40s. Any older than that and the child may turn into the parent, needing to take care of the older parents.

In the end though, like others have said here, it is up to the parents having the child. If they want to raise a kid when they are that old, more power to them, but they should also think about the kid. No doubt the child will lose the parents at a young age.

[Murton]

after the new record holder 66 years old is that too old to have a child?
when that child is 10 she will be 76 and most probably dead( no offense) thoughts?

Didn't I read the other day that she has in fact now died? I'm sure some ridiculously old mother has croaked leaving a two year old kid. Dropping a sprog at that age is, imho, downright selfish. She obviously didn't have the thoughts of the child in mind and just decided "I want to have it", so now there's a motherless two-year-old knocking about.


Although the chance of non-disjunction and mutations during meiosis increases exponentially with age starting at 30.

I'm sorry Transcendence, but I have no idea what half of that means. The exponential increase after 30, yeah :yes:, mutations, yeah :yes:, but non-disjunction and meiosis? No :no: (you were right in another thread when you said I obviously didn't do Biology!!)

[bringerofchaos]

mutations ahy.....hmm ;)
but seriously, this mother should be ashamed of herself

[Transcendence]

You guys have heard of the menopause (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause) right?

'Also the probability of complete or incomplete non-disjunction and independent assortment during meiosis increases exponentially as the parents get older, so i personally think 35 is as old as a person should be when getting pregnant.'

I re-worded it and now i'm going to explain it. It's when the gametes (sperm and egg cells) in the testes reproduce. Copy genetic material and then the whole thing splits in two basically. That is reliant on that all of the spindle fibres that pull the chromosomes to the right side of the splitting sex cell don't snap and break having an uneven number of chromosomes in the first generation of gametes.

That's the very, very simple way at looking at it any way.

[Nagisa24]

i dont think a woman should be having kids after about 40. obviously its gona be a bit later nowadays coz a lot of women concentrate on having a succesful job earlier on so by the time theyre 40ish they realise theyve gotta have kids before its too late. its harsh as well that women get all the hate for having a kid at 60 but if a guy was to get a younger woman pregnant when he was 70 it wouldnt be as bad. and that woman who held the record is now dead so those 2 year old kids are kinda screwed. if you were like 65 and had a kid you'd probably have to change your own nappy as well as the babies.

[Transcendence]

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/DasUberCow/nondisjunction.gif

This is only complete non-disjunction figures. Other mutations follow the same trend. Exponential i tell ya!

[RhysHughes]

they way i saw it i wanted to be able to do the same sorta stuff with my kids as my parents did with me, for example go for a kick about in the park have fun run around ect, i really did'nt wanna be one of those old grandparent looking parents who are so tired by the time they drive to the park that they can't even get out of the car let alone have fun and enjoy themselves with the kids, thats why i started young(ish), had my daughter 5 months ago at the ripe old age of 23, gonna leave it 2 or 3 years till we try again, be about 26 then same again, wnat to have my 3rd and final kid by the time im 30, will still be plenty young (and hopefully active enough) to give them the best start in life, and hopefully an exciting and fun filled childhood

having said that i do agree in the each to their own side of things, if people want to have carrers and wait till their older then thats their choice, but personally i think its unfair on the children to have old ( 50ish + ) parents who can't give them the interraction that they need and crave,

oh and looking after a small baby is seriously hard work and i consider myself to be pretty fit and healthy and she wears the hell outta me, if they can do it at 60 total respect to them but i still have my doubts and child negligence does come to mind (not suggesting that people wilfully niglect their children of course)

[gr0undp0und]

15 seems to be too old in my town.....

[JohnOhhh]

i think past the age of 50 is getting too old for a baby :)

[Transcendence]

Why is everyone doing +1 posts on the Serious Discussion sub-forum? It's beyond me. Quote each other instead of reading the topic idea and posting your ideas. Not that i don't want you to show off your ideas, but that you can discuss them and build on each others' posts and theories.

[NoStylezOrFreeStylez]

45+ is a bit too old i reckon...:p

no offence to anyone here O_O

[Marts_]

I'd just say a sensible age, because you dont want to be getting sick and ill of old age before your child grows up

[Transcendence]

Fuck this. This is serious discussion. It's ridiculous.

[NewPain]

I would say 40+ is a bit too old but it all depends on the people your dealing with

[WeLsh_bEn]

I'd say 45+ as its kind of unfair to the child then, when there a teenager your almost 60!

[BossSnake]

It's quite remarkable that someone at the age of 66 hasn't hit menopause yet; I'm not sure how it comes about, or if it's even a process that can be "delayed," but she seems to be quite well-engineered. Generally, however, at the age of 66, there's a constant worry of not being able to experience the child to the full extent that other, "normal," parents would be able to. A choice that must be made by the people involved: they'll have to live with it, even if the child didn't get a say.