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Hihihellobye
17-04-2009, 02:30 AM
World Tendency

The World Tendency changes according to what you have done in certain areas of the map recently. A White tendency will make enemies weaker and put your defense up, a Black tendency will make them stronger and your souls body weaker, and often introduce Black Phantoms, but upgrades the item drops from the enemies if Pure Black. Also, depending on the tendency, you will gain access to hidden areas and get new quests and items. You can see the changes when you are in the Nexus, so if you are trying to convert an area you will have to go back to see how it worked.


Events:



Pure Black World Tendency


1-1 - The door on the left near the starting point will be unlocked. You will fight Executioner Miralda (phantom form) and get Guillotine Axe. Inside her building, there is a Colorless Demon's Soul in a beam and Brushwood armor at the bottom
1-1 - 2x black phantoms near the red knight
1-2 - 2x black phantoms before the boss
1-3 - 2x black phantom mages on top of the walls
1-3 - Primeval demon
1-4 - Black Phantom Fat Ministers added.

2-1 - Primeval demon near the first lift under the enemies throwing rocks at you
2-2 - Wanderer Scirvir in the descent area (Black Phantom), drops Talisman of Beast.

3-1 - Black Phantom mage near Ballista
3-1 - Black Phantom mage on the way to the first tower
3-1 - Black Phantom mage in front of the first tower
3-1 - NPC Rydell on the second floor becomes a black phantom, drops Phosphorescent Pole
3-2 - Black phantom worm at the swamp (Under Yurt)
3-2 - Primeval demon at the swamp (Under Yurt)

4-1 - Satsuki (Black Phantom) near the entrance, drops Gripless katana
4-1 Various Black Phantom Skeletons added.
4-2 - Black Phantom at the first set of stairs
4-2 - Primeval demon on the secret path on the left stairs coming up from the first reaper (the one you use to get to White Bow and C. Gecko)

5-1 Ladder going upwards to path that leads to Istaratelle, right before 1st Giant Goblin
5-2 - Black phantom giant goblins added to parts of the stage
5-2 - Selen (phantom)
5-2 - Primeval demon at the end of the swamp, before going up the path that leads to the slug nest

Note: Primeval Demons require pure black tendency to spawn. Regular black tendency will add some, not all of the phantoms, etc.


Pure White World Tendency


1-1 - Right hand door close to first Archstone opens. Executioner Miralda will drop Binded Set & Master's Ring, but no Guillotine Axe.
1-1 - No dragons at their usual resting place

2-2 - Wanderer Scirvir at the descending area, show him Keel Smasher from 2-3 for a Pure Greystone.
2-3 - The debris to the left path where you fight the Dragon God will be cleared, you will get a valuable weapon: Keel Smasher (requires pure white)

3-1 - 2F West NPC, Rydell can be rescued if you have the key (You obtain the Key at top of tower in 3-2 - The reward is Dull Rat's Ring. This also opens the Second Floor door)
3-1 - The debris that blocked the opposite side of Rydell`s cell is accessible now: items include Venerable Sage set and Three-Cornered Hat.
3-1 - 2F East also accessible now, Paring Dagger, Rogue set
3-2 - On top of the first (zombie servant) tower, there will be a bridge leading to the 3-1 2F key.

4-1 - Satsuki appears near entrance and asks you to look for the Magic Sword "Makoto"
4-2 - In the hole that Patches pushes you into, the corpse that was stuck on the pillar will be on the ground now and you can get the Magic Sword "Makoto". Take it back to Satsuki, whatever you do he will chose to fight you.

5-1 - Near the first giant goblin, there will be a ladder leading upwards. You will fight your way to the Istarelle spear.
5-2 - Selen will appear on a tiny island right after the first fog, talk to her to start a sidequest.
5-3 - Garl Vinland (phantom) will drops Crest of Vinland (ring) sidequest item for Selen.



How to change World Tendency:

Towards Black:
- Die in the area while in human form. (Use a Stone of Ephemeral Eyes, jump down a cliff, touch your bloodstain, repeat 4-5 times and return to nexus, when you come back into the world the change will be in effect)
- Use the Black Eye Stone to invade a game and successfully defeat another player.

Towards White:
- Defeat Demon bosses, Black Phantom NPCs or Primeval Demons .
- Defeat Black Phantom players that invade the game.


Character Tendency

In addition to the alignment of each world, your character has his own personal tendency (shown by the color of the player avatar in the center of the world tendency screen)

Your character tendency will allow you to obtain the Friend`s Ring (Talk to Monumental when you are pure white) or do the Mephistopheles Quest (Will appear in the Nexus if you are pure Black after you free Yurt the Silent Chief from 3-2)

You will gain White Tendency if:


- Defeat Demon bosses, Black Phantom NPCs or Primeval Demons.
- Defeat Black Phantom players that invade the game.
- Resurrect ally Blue Phantom players with the resurrection miracle.


You will gain Black Tendency if:
- Kill friendly NPCs (Best to kill world vendors (dirty woman, etc)
- Use the Black Eye Stone to invade a game and successfully defeat another player and ally phantoms.

ichab
17-04-2009, 02:27 PM
thanks for that great list ...

what would you recommend for a demon's souls beginner ... start trying Pure White Char and World Tendency by killing demon bosses without getting killed?

Is it possible to get it offline on the 1st playthrough?

Jigsaw
17-04-2009, 11:04 PM
thanks for that great list ...

what would you recommend for a demon's souls beginner ... start trying Pure White Char and World Tendency by killing demon bosses without getting killed?

Is it possible to get it offline on the 1st playthrough?

if you know the game and start a new character it is possible to get all pure white in the 1st playthrough,if you are new to the game then no,impossible...there are so many things like traps where you can screw up,you basically have to complete the entire game without dying once to get pure white (if you want to play offline)

my tip for the first playthrough is to get all worlds to pure black,collect all the stuff which is only available in pure black,hunt down the black phantom npcs (1 per world) to get your character tendency to nearly pure white (nearly because the last npc is only available in pure white,so its nearly impossible to get a pure white character in the 1st playthrough offline) the blackphantom npcs are alot stronger than their human forms,so trust me when i say you dont want to mess with the black npcs in new game+

in your new game+,kill one last black phantom to get pure white character tendency (i suggest to go for black sazuki,he is right in the beginning of world 4) and get the ring from the monumental afterwards,then use the online glitch to reset all worlds back to neutral and go for pure white world tendency,becoming a pure black character is a matter of minutes

and because you probably didnt understand a single word,thats the reason why its impossible to get it in 1st playthrough ;)

2 tips if you go for pure white world

1. dont kill any characters even if they attack you (miralda,old king doran,garl vinland,sazuki),they will lower your world tendency to black
2. use the quitting feature everytime you die,if it is during a bossfight you will respawn infront of the boss chamber

Hihihellobye
18-04-2009, 02:21 AM
Hey there. Hope the list is useful. There are many details that are hard to compile into something like this.

In my opinion, you should play the game however it is fun to you. I finished my first playthrough when it went online with a new character and pure white character tendency, it is possible, but only if you are willing to use some time being a Blue Phantom. Your character will gain white tendency if you kill any type of black phantoms or bosses, so being online is a good way to get it.

On the world thing... initially, you will die a lot. You will learn from dying, and start to figure out techniques and tactics against each enemy, but you are likely to get frustrated if you are wanting to get all the secrets.

My advise:

Play the game in this order, without thinking about world tendency:
Boletaria 1-1, Boletaria 1-2 (summon an ally phantom)
Shrine of Storms 4-1 (grind here and in 4-2 until you are over level 50 or 100, by using your Blue eye stone --- you keep the souls even if you die as a blue phantom---).
Tower of Latria 3-1 (with ally) *Save Freke so you can learn powerful magic*
Stonefang 2-1, Stonefang 2-2
Valey of Defilement, all of it *learn spell death cloud*
Shrine of Storms 4-3
Stonefang 2-3
Latria 3-2 and 3-3
Boletarian Palace 1-3

Now you have killed all the bosses except King Allant, and you are probably in level 100+ and have an arsenal of spells and weapons and upgrading stones. Go to Ed in 2-1 and upgrade what you can. This is the time to get the worlds Pure Black. Choose whatever world you want to get the event from, go there and kill yourself from a cliff. when you respawn, touch your bloodstain, use a stone of ephemeral eyes and kill yourself again. Do this 4-5 times and go back to the Nexus, the next time you enter the world it will be pure black. (not all of them have something special to pure black, in which case it is best to do the event in pure white. Istaratelle spear, for example, is available in both extremes).
*Stones of Ephemeral Eyes are 100% drop from plague swamp babies in 5-3*

When you have all the items you wanted, finish your first playthrough, and then go for pure white in your second one. Second time around you can do the worlds in any order, but I recommend having a list of spells you need at hand so you know which ones to go for first.

Dropeti
18-04-2009, 03:53 AM
Great, great tips guys!
Still waiting impatiently for my game but now I can say I already have a basic notion of what I'm supposed to do in my playthrous :)

ichab
18-04-2009, 09:52 AM
Thanks for all the information, I'm level 110 now and completed 75%, I died about 20 times in the beginning but now I can handle my character well and didn't die the last hours.

Now two questions:
How exactly can I see which tendency the worlds got? Every world can be "Pure Black" or "Pure White" or do all worlds have to be the same to have the effects?
Don't know how to interprete the picture in my "world tendency menue" ... i loaded my screen up for you ...

Hihihellobye
18-04-2009, 10:07 AM
Thanks for all the information, I'm level 110 now and completed 75%, I died about 20 times in the beginning but now I can handle my character well and didn't die the last hours.

Now two questions:
How exactly can I see which tendency the worlds got? Every world can be "Pure Black" or "Pure White" or do all worlds have to be the same to have the effects?
Don't know how to interprete the picture in my "world tendency menue" ... i loaded my screen up for you ...


Hi there. Great if this is useful :)

Answers to your Qs

* You only need one world to be Black/White for it to trigger events inside that world.
* From your picture, Valley of Defilement seems to be Pure White, the others need you to do some more work. Telling white tendency is always more tricky because of brightness settings. You will have to enter the world and go to see if you find the path/phantom you are looking for to confirm. Pure Black is when the world stone is the same color as that broken black stone from your picture (the one that is not accessible)
* Your character tendency is Neutral. If you do good things, the player avatar (that statue) will shine white/blueish around the chest area. If you are evil, your entire avatar statue will turn the color of the broken world stone.

ichab
20-04-2009, 09:06 AM
1-1 - Right hand door close to first Archstone opens. Executioner Miralda will drop Binded Set & Master's Ring, but no Guillotine Axe.

You're sure it's right hand? Isn't it the same door as in Pure Black World Tendency?

Hihihellobye
21-04-2009, 01:28 AM
Lol sorry left! Left hand... sigh...

ichab
21-04-2009, 08:22 PM
hehe got it myself, its been irritating because I wasn't even sure whether I got white tendency or not, the door was closed and then i read: "Right hand door!!" and was looking for 15 minutes for that damn door :P

Hihihellobye
22-04-2009, 01:28 AM
Sorry for wasting 15 minutes of your life! Lol.

ichab
22-04-2009, 07:55 AM
To err is human, to forgive is divine. :P

Hihihellobye
23-04-2009, 02:07 AM
HAHAHAHAHA.

Modest hu?

monkeymajiks
24-04-2009, 03:01 PM
Another tip for getting pure white character tendency on your first play-through is to do the following.

First you need to turn a world black, to get the primeval demon and black phantoms appear.
* Turn a world black quickly by resurrecting yourself using a stone of ephemerial eyes, and suiciding.
* Return immediately to the Nexus, and the world will shift (it only shift when you come out of the Nexus).
* Return back to the same world and repeat the first two steps until it turns pure black. (usually 2-4 deaths or so)
* Once the world is black kill every black phantom and the primeval demon (its a giant slug thing, that dies in one hit).
* Once everything is dead, return to the Nexus and your Character tendency should have shifted significantly.

*You can usually repeat this process to do it quickly, without bothering with blue phantom stuff. I did this in about 1hr and went from neutral to pure white and got the friendship ring.

Additionally, in order to move your character tendency and world tendency at once towards white, go and fight a demon boss as soul, so it is less tenacious. Just before you kill it use a stone of ephemeral eyes and finish it off. When you kill a demon boss and you are alive, you get a much larger shift in world tendency towards white.

Jigsaw
03-05-2009, 03:58 AM
Another tip for getting pure white character tendency on your first play-through is to do the following.

First you need to turn a world black, to get the primeval demon and black phantoms appear.
* Turn a world black quickly by resurrecting yourself using a stone of ephemerial eyes, and suiciding.
* Return immediately to the Nexus, and the world will shift (it only shift when you come out of the Nexus).
* Return back to the same world and repeat the first two steps until it turns pure black. (usually 2-4 deaths or so)
* Once the world is black kill every black phantom and the primeval demon (its a giant slug thing, that dies in one hit).
* Once everything is dead, return to the Nexus and your Character tendency should have shifted significantly.

*You can usually repeat this process to do it quickly, without bothering with blue phantom stuff. I did this in about 1hr and went from neutral to pure white and got the friendship ring.

black phanoms are unique and wont respawn,you cant repeat it until new game+,and primevals dont change character tendency

also you dont have to return to nexus everytime you suicide,just die and revive 4 times and return once and it will be pure black